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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:05:00 -
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So long Sreegs! Nice having you!
One part of the current policy that is missing (at least I hope its still part of policy) is removal of ill gotten ISK. Is that still being done? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:25:00 -
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One thing that has always seemed to be a shortcoming in CCP's war on bots in the lack of deterrence. Lets say a month from now a new player picks up the game, plays for a few weeks and then gets the idea to bot. What deters him from doing so? The EULA? Most likely he did not read it. This blog? Buried under dozens of others, and he may not even be looking for them.
So he buys a bot program. That gives money to bot writers, which is not a good thing. He tries it and gets banned. "Oh, I guess I should not do that any more." OK, he learned his lesson and will now fly right. But would it not be better if he did not try, even once? Then:
The bot writer would get no money. If you can take the money out of bot writing there will be fewer bot writers.
The security team will have less work to do banning people, giving them more time to make their tools even better.
With fewer people trying botting, there will be on average fewer bots in the game.
I suggest that you place on the log-in screen a special area which gives:
The number of Strike one bans this week. The number of Strike two bans this week. The number of RMT bans this week. The amount of ISK removed along with the bans this week.
That would provide continuous and persistent deterrence to botting. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:54:00 -
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A player who wants to RMT goes to a friend who does not play eve and says:
"Could you start a character in Eve, buy a pile of ISK via RMT, then sell me the character?"
How would CCP stop that from happening, other than swinging the ban hammer even after the character has been sold? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:47:00 -
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eXeler0n wrote:Ziranda Hakuli wrote:I am happy to see that the BOT war is falling under more strict punishments. YAY!!!
I am curious on this as other folks in Eve have been curious as well. There is a software called ISBOXER that runs client side where it managed your clients with single key activation. Will this also be addressed in some fashion? Some folks feel that this is wrong. Will there be a new stance on t his where some of these ISBOXER users control anywhere from 4 to 20 some odd toons only to farm isk. Not talking about mining but making ISK from farming in null sec anomalies to empire mission running of some type.
Please I like to hear your thoughts on this I like to hear more about this too! Run 10 accounts by playing one? 9 Accounts are played by IS Boxer, not the player. +1 Key re-broadcasters are becoming more of an issue. Note the issue is NOT "are they bots?" its "do they allow for patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play?"
Or more directly "Should using ISBOXER and the like be considered ordinary game play?" Currently the answer is "Yes", but I think that needs to be changed to "No". http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:A player who wants to RMT goes to a friend who does not play eve and says:
"Could you start a character in Eve, buy a pile of ISK via RMT, then sell me the character?"
How would CCP stop that from happening, other than swinging the ban hammer even after the character has been sold?
Edit: Ill answer my own question: Ban the person who did the RMT and remove the ISK. That way the receiver of the character gets zero benefit from the transaction. Your idea is terribly unfair to players who sell their characters for ISK and end up getting screwed out of billions because the other guy paid for the character with botted or RMTed ISK. Unless, of course, CCP reverses the character transfer as well, but that'd probably be a gross violation of CCP's confidentiality policies. In that case the ISK is removed from the guy who payed for the character, as he did the RMT. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:45:00 -
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virm pasuul wrote:First off thank you all, and very well done for all the effort that CCP is putting into banning bots. I rabidly despise cheating in all multi player games and I fully support any and all efforts to eradicate it.
Secondly I have a question.
How does someone bot without client modification? .........
A second computer, solenoids over the keyboard, an X-Y pen plotter to move the mouse, and a web camera pointed at your eve client screen. Absolutely no botting software is on the computer running Eve.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:33:00 -
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virm pasuul wrote:Deranged FleX wrote: This account along with ALL my accounts are -13Billion isk because of buying it on the forums correctly. At some point didn't you think about stopping buying negative isk accounts? Once burnt twice shy and all that? Oh most likely that's not what happened. What happened is he did RMT then tried to hide it with various transactions and character transfers. When CCP caught him he came here to the forums to whine about it and proclaim his innocence. Well, as CCP Sreegs was fond of saying: People who do bad things have been known to lie. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:07:00 -
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Aye, alot of the comments seem to have a terminology slip from "Keystroke rebroadcast software" to "multiboxing software" to "multiboxing" as though they are all the same thing. They are not. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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